Legislature(1997 - 1998)

03/19/1998 01:50 PM House FIN

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             HOUSE FINANCE COMMITTEE                                           
                 March 19, 1998                                                
                    1:50 P.M.                                                  
                                                                               
TAPE HFC 98 - 70, Side 1.                                                      
TAPE HFC 98 - 70, Side 2.                                                      
                                                                               
CALL TO ORDER                                                                  
                                                                               
Co-Chair Therriault called the House Finance Committee                         
meeting to order at 1:50 P.M.                                                  
                                                                               
PRESENT                                                                        
                                                                               
Co-Chair Hanley   Representative Kelly                                         
Co-Chair Therriault   Representative Kohring                                   
Representative J. Davies  Representative Martin                                
Representative G. Davis  Representative Moses                                  
Representative Foster  Representative Mulder                                   
Representative Grussendorf                                                     
                                                                               
ALSO PRESENT                                                                   
                                                                               
Doug Griffin, (Testified via Teleconference), Alcohol                          
Beverage Control Board (ABC), Anchorage; Cliff Stone,                          
Staff, Representative Alan Austerman; Representative Alan                      
Austerman; Mary Gore, Staff, Senator Mike Miller; Byron                        
Mallott, Executive Director, Alaska Permanent Fund                             
Corporation; Jim Kelly, Director of Communications, Alaska                     
Permanent Fund Corporation.                                                    
                                                                               
SUMMARY                                                                        
                                                                               
HB 317 An Act relating to investments of the Alaska                            
Permanent Fund Corporation.                                                    
                                                                               
 HB 317 was reported out of Committee with a "do                               
pass" recommendation and with a fiscal note by                                 
the Department of Revenue.                                                     
                                                                               
HB 411 An Act relating to issuance of a winery license                         
in a local option area.                                                        
                                                                               
 CS HB 411 (FIN) was reported out of Committee                                 
with "no recommendation" and with a fiscal note                                
by the Department of Revenue dated 3/18/98.                                    
                                                                               
SB 261 An Act relating to the Special Olympics World                           
Winter Games to be held in Anchorage in the year                               
2001; establishing a reserve fund for the games;                               
providing certain duties and authority for the                                 
Alaska Industrial Development and Export                                       
Authority regarding financing for those games;                                 
and providing for an effective date.                                           
                                                                               
 CSSB 261 (FIN) was HELD in Committee for further                              
consideration.                                                                 
                                                                               
HCR 9 Proposing amendments to the Uniform Rules of the                         
Alaska State Legislature relating to committee                                 
meetings; and providing for an effective date.                                 
                                                                               
 HCR 9 was HELD in Committee for further                                       
consideration.                                                                 
HOUSE BILL NO. 411                                                             
                                                                               
"An Act relating to issuance of a winery license in a                          
local option area."                                                            
                                                                               
Co-Chair Therriault distributed a copy of new amendment for                    
HB 411, 0-LS1583\A.1, Ford, 3/19/98.  [Copy of File].                          
                                                                               
CLIFF STONE, STAFF, REPRESENTATIVE ALAN AUSTERMAN, noted                       
that Representative Austerman does support the language of                     
the amendment.                                                                 
                                                                               
Co-Chair Therriault asked if the community of Port Lions                       
would exercise "option F" added by the amendment.                              
                                                                               
DOUG GRIFFIN, (TESTIFIED VIA TELECONFERENCE), ALCOHOL                          
BEVERAGE CONTROL BOARD, ANCHORAGE, noted that he had                           
received a copy of the amendment and that the ABC Board                        
would support addition of that language.                                       
                                                                               
Co-Chair Therriault MOVED to adopt Amendment #1.  There                        
being NO OBJECTION, it was adopted.                                            
                                                                               
Representative Foster MOVED to report CS HB 411 (FIN) out                      
of Committee with individual recommendations and with the                      
accompanying fiscal note.  There being NO OBJECTION, it was                    
so ordered.                                                                    
                                                                               
CS HB 411 (FIN) was reported out of Committee with "no                         
recommendation" and with a fiscal note by the Department of                    
Revenue dated 3/18/98.                                                         
SENATE BILL NO. 261                                                            
                                                                               
"An Act relating to the Special Olympics World Winter                          
Games to be held in Anchorage in the year 2001;                                
establishing a reserve fund for the games; providing                           
certain duties and authority for the Alaska Industrial                         
Development and Export Authority regarding financing                           
for those games; and providing for an effective date."                         
                                                                               
Co-Chair Therriault explained that during previous                             
Committee discussion, the intent was to add language to the                    
legislation clarifying that the State would limit it's                         
moral obligation to the first $4 million dollars of                            
currency raised and expended on the special Olympic effort.                    
                                                                               
MARY GORE, STAFF, SENATOR MIKE MILLER, addressed Committee                     
concerns regarding how the funds would increase the overall                    
budget.  She assured members that the particular segment of                    
the operating agreement between the game organizing                            
committee clearly stipulates that the budget is to remain                      
at $8 million dollars.  The $4 million State dollars would                     
be the entire cost to the State.                                               
                                                                               
Ms. Gore acknowledged that the investment would be a risk                      
to the State.  In order to be awarded this bid, Senator                        
Miller, Representative Phillips and Governor Knowles had to                    
agree that the Legislature would provide moral obligation                      
by being the financial backer for the games.  Providing the                    
guarantee, Alaska was awarded the bid, although, the final                     
agreement has not yet been signed. It will be signed with                      
Jim Palmer of BP Exploration and Carl Mars, who will then                      
take the agreement to Washington D.C. and present it to                        
Senator Stevens.  Ms. Gore emphasized that it is the intent                    
that this agreement will not cost the State any money.                         
                                                                               
Co-Chair Hanley commented that the bill does not specify                       
that the State's contribution would be limited to $4                           
million dollars.  He understood that the intent was to                         
receive $4 million dollars in in-kind contributions.  Co-                      
Chair Hanley stressed that the language of the bill needs                      
to be coherent with the intent and that the $4 million                         
State dollars should be clearly specified.  Ms. Gore                           
replied that the understanding with Special Olympics                           
International (SOI) is that the State Legislature would be                     
the "backend guarantor" of the event.                                          
                                                                               
Co-Chair Hanley reiterated that the language needs to                          
clearly specify the amount the State is responsible for.                       
Ms. Gore reported that the International Committee would                       
like to guarantee that any Olympic committee, SOI or the                       
hosting city will not go into the "hole" as a result of the                    
event.  Co-Chair Hanley understood, although, he continued                     
to disagree with the proposed legislation's verbiage.                          
                                                                               
Co-Chair Therriault recommended that the wording specify                       
that the total budget not exceed $8 million dollars.  Co-                      
Chair Hanley pointed out that there is no language                             
specifying the in-kind monies.                                                 
                                                                               
Representative Mulder noted that Alaska Industrial                             
Development Export Authority (AIDEA) supports the                              
legislation and is willing to be the "stake holder".                           
                                                                               
Representative Grussendorf requested a copy of                                 
correspondence received by Senator Miller's office,                            
November 1997, from Special Olympic International (SOI).                       
                                                                               
Ms. Gore suggested inserting language from the SOI Charter,                    
placing it on Page 3, Line 7 and Line 30, and Page 4, Line                     
1.  She advised adding language: "Of the total operating                       
budget of $8 million dollars".  Representative Mulder                          
recommended adding an additional reference: "As pertained                      
in Article #10 of the Special Olympic International                            
Charter".                                                                      
                                                                               
Representative Mulder MOVED the proposed conceptual                            
amendment.  There being NO OBJECTION, it was adopted.                          
                                                                               
Co-Chair Hanley asked who would receive the money.  Ms.                        
Gore explained that it would go to the organizing                              
committee.  A Reserved Established Fund was created in the                     
case that there would be a government who wanted to                            
financially participate by donating funds to the organizing                    
committee, but were not able to give it to a nonprofit,                        
those funds could then be directly deposited into the                          
reserve.  That fund would be used as a portion of the                          
State's $4 million dollar appropriation.                                       
                                                                               
Co-Chair Therriault noted that the bill would be held in                       
Committee until the committee substitute was received back                     
from the legal drafters.                                                       
                                                                               
CSSB 261 (FIN) was HELD in Committee for further                               
consideration.                                                                 
HOUSE BILL NO. 317                                                             
                                                                               
"An Act relating to investments of the Alaska                                  
Permanent Fund Corporation."                                                   
                                                                               
BYRON MALLOT, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, ALASKA PERMANENT FUND                        
CORPORATION (APFC), stated that HB 317 was supported by the                    
APFC Board of Trustees.  The bill would increase from 50%                      
to 60% the Board's investment authorization in common                          
stocks.                                                                        
                                                                               
He noted that virtually all the literature on capital                          
markets theory and practice indicates that equities provide                    
a vastly superior long-term rate of return compared to                         
other financial assets, albeit with increased short and                        
intermediate term volatility.                                                  
                                                                               
HB 317 would give the Board of Trustees the flexibility to                     
increase the Fund's investments in equities to a level                         
comparable to its peers.  Currently, the Permanent Fund has                    
a smaller fund allocation for equities than most other                         
larger institutional funds, including the State of Alaska's                    
retirement fund.                                                               
                                                                               
Mr. Mallott urged the Committee's support of the                               
legislation.  He provided a packet entitled: Alaska                            
Permanent Fund Corporation - The Case for HB 317.  [Copy on                    
File].                                                                         
                                                                               
Representative Mulder commented that the fiscal note does                      
not indicate the offset costs associated with the State's                      
investment.                                                                    
                                                                               
JIM KELLY, DIRECTOR OF COMMUNICATIONS, ALASKA PERMANENT                        
FUND CORPORATION, agreed, adding that for every $100                           
dollars the fund earns, it will cost $1.50 in management                       
fees.  The fiscal note covers those costs.  Representative                     
Mulder thought that APFC had been overly critical in their                     
fiscal analysis, which he felt would instead be a positive                     
impact.  Mr. Kelly reiterated that the fiscal note                             
indicates the increased management fees.                                       
                                                                               
Co-Chair Hanley agreed that the fiscal note should indicate                    
the anticipated revenue.  Co-Chair Therriault recommended                      
that an analysis provide back up information regarding the                     
anticipated revenue.                                                           
                                                                               
(Tape Change HFC 98- 70, Side 2).                                              
                                                                               
Co-Chair Hanley questioned how the percentage of                               
anticipated profit was determined.  Mr. Kelly replied that                     
the Daily Supplemental Report indicates the daily amount of                    
money the PFC has invested in the stock market.  Mr.                           
Mallott added that the data was based on the market value                      
opposed to cost value.                                                         
                                                                               
Co-Chair Therriault inquired if fund advisors anticipate                       
that it would increase to 60% right away.  Mr. Mallott                         
responded that during the annual planning process, the                         
fund's asset allocation is determined on an annual basis.                      
                                                                               
Representative Foster MOVED to report HB137 out of                             
Committee with individual recommendations and with the                         
revised fiscal note.  There being NO OBJECTION, it was so                      
ordered.                                                                       
                                                                               
HB 317 was reported out of Committee with a "do pass"                          
recommendation and with a fiscal note by the Department of                     
Revenue.                                                                       
HOUSE CONCURRENT RESOLUTION NO. 9                                              
                                                                               
Proposing amendments to the Uniform Rules of the                               
Alaska State Legislature relating to committee                                 
meetings; and providing for an effective date.                                 
                                                                               
Co-Chair Therriault distributed the work draft committee                       
substitute #0-LS0579\B, Cook, 3/18/98, for CSHCR 9 (FIN).                      
[Copy on File].  The language of the draft would allow for                     
a legislator to participate in a meeting and vote via                          
teleconference.  He noted that the sponsor of the bill,                        
Representative Rokeberg was agreeable to that language and                     
would testify on the proposed change at a later scheduled                      
meeting.                                                                       
                                                                               
HCR 9 was HELD in Committee for further consideration.                         
PERMANENT FUND INTERNSHIP PROGRAM                                              
                                                                               
Mr. Mallott advised that Robert Snickerhoff, a young Native                    
born Alaskan had been named the Chief Investment Officer                       
for the San Diego County Pension Investment Fund.  Mr.                         
Snickerhoff began his career at the Alaska Permanent Fund                      
Corporation as an intern.                                                      
                                                                               
Mr. Kelly added that the program is still on going and                         
there continues to be opportunities for students to apply.                     
There are ten companies participating at this time.  The                       
internships usually last for three months and the students                     
are able to work with the best companies in the business.                      
He commented that about 25% of the students have been                          
placed with full-time work with participating companies.                       
                                                                               
ADJOURNMENT                                                                    
                                                                               
The meeting adjourned at 2:45 P.M.                                             
                                                                               
                                                                               
H.F.C. 7 3/19/98 p.m.                                                          

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